Converting brass case berdan to boxer for cases that may be rare or very expensive is the only reason i would even consider trying it. Feb 08, 2006 does anyone have experience with reloading berdan primed cases. I had some hundred rws but they are like gold today so it was great to see the russian berdan primer. The cases will wind up in the trash and i wont take things any further. This is new production, noncorrosive, nonreloadable, berdan primed, steel case ammunition that is manufactured in russia. As i understand it, that is not something i can do, due to the 2 flash holes in the case for berdan primed brass. Converting lr berdan primer pockets in brass milsurp cartridges to sr boxer primer pockets over the years ive thrown away i dont know how many thousands of very good brass cases of 7. In general, you could expect a saving of up to 50%. Reloading berdan primed cases is a pain in the neck.
We will full length resize, deprime, trim to spec, swage the primer pockets, then tumble them in stainless steel media. I am still buried in a remodel project, but at this point have all the tooling to start converting berdan 7. This wolf ammunition in non reloadable and features steel cases and berdan primers. The handle is spring loaded to return the collet deprimer to the start position automatically. Remove the anvil from boxer primer and insert in primer pocket seal and secure the primer with super glue, let dry. They are 150 grain full metal jackets and berdan primed steel case. They are ideal for both commercial reloaders and those who use reloadable brass casings for recreational purposes. Shooting accuracy more uniform and consistent jacket delivers up to 15% better shooting accuracy than standard bimetal bullets. Look inside a berdan primed case and youll see two holes offcentered. Wolf ammo 308 winchester 150 grain full metal jacket steel. Reloading steel cases boxer primed read 6737 times rmm. An ultra simple resolution to the pain of removing berdan primers. Mc22355sp by wolf military classic is packaged in cases of with free shipping included on case quantities. Tulammo tulammo 9mm luger ammo 115 grain fmj steel case.
Dont have time or equipment needed to process your own. The cases could be reloaded 1 or 2 times before one damaged the internal nipple in the primer pocket. Imo the process for reloading berdan primed cases isnt worth it, especially when its just. Feb 14, 20 conventional wisdom says you cant reload steel case ammo, but reality says you can. Steel case, berdan primed, noncorrosive primer bullet. However, there are options for loading berdan primed cases. This brass is from indoor ranges that do not allow. The coatings used on steel cases lacquer or polymer for corrosion resistance and resistance to sticking in the chamber may not survive reloading very well. Features an easily removable spent primer catch tube and an assistedejection case holder for easy removal of deprimed cases. A good stuck at home project reloading berdan primed steel cases.
If you intend to reload your spent casings or sell your casings to a reloader, dont use berdanprimed ammo stick with boxerprimed. Bimetal bullets feature a jacket consisting of alternating sheets of copper and steel, then pressed together. Once the reloader has purchased the necessary reloading equipment, reloading once fired brass becomes a very costeffective way to shoot. One color bucket for the brass and another for steel and alumium. Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic oal ins range.
Berdan to boxer primer, reloading berdan primers, berdan. I fired over 500 rounds of the wolf steel case ammo through one of my ar15s my first ar before anyone told me not to use steel case ammo in it. Unless you are equipped to process berdan primed brass, these rounds will most likely not work for you. Berdan primers do not use the anvil it is formed into the case head and thus there are two flash holes on either side of the anvil. I did an ecperiment a couple of years ago reloading both alouminum and steel cases with boxer primed cases. Reloading steel case berdan ammo with regular primers in a. Then, you could feasably drill the cases to remove the anvil and enlarge the primer pocket to take a standard primer. Why is it so difficult to reload berdanprimed brass. Berdan to boxer conversion british militaria forums. Steel cases and berdan primed so no reloading, other than that i have not tried it so not much help here. If you have the primers, its worth the effort ive loaded lots of different calibers with berdan primers, especially those where boxer brass is or has been expensive. There is a tool that prys them out the back of the case but it looks slow and shaky on its ability to remove the primers. Keep in mind, reloading berdan ammo will be a pain.
So i know its a royal pita, but i lubed up a steel casing today and ran it through my press and it came out. The first trip there, i used their bucket, when finished, i dumped my brass into my bag. Overall this is a great product to use on cases that do not have military crimps. Reloading steel cases boxer primed page 1 reloading. Reloading steel case berdan ammo with regular primers. Hence, reloading is not an option, unless you are in a desperate situation. All functional parts are made of topgrade, heattreated steel alloy for toughness. The cases could be reloaded 1 or 2 times before one damaged the internal nipple in.
This isnt a safety issue, but instead a cost issue. Regards, doc av been reloading berdan and steel since late 1960s. Berdan to boxer converion of steel or brass and similar cases for reloading. How to reload steel case ammo guns, holsters and gear. You can now reload your steel cartridges in a few easy to do steps. Unless you plan to reload the spent cases, id say the. Dont forget, beside holding the components together the cartridge case is supposed to act as a gas seal in the chamber by expanding to fill the gaps. Jan 04, 20 demonstrating the reloading of berdan steel cases with regular primers, no special tools, and no case modifications. Nov 03, 2008 there is even a video on the internet of a guy reloading steel case berdan primed wolf ammo 7. Reloading steel cases the firearms forum the buying.
Please take note of the fact that a fired cartridge case can be reused several. Once they made boxer primed brass available i discarded the berdan primed brass and bever looked back. I used a tool to pierce the primer and remove it from the case. Sure, reloading brass cases are much easier, but you can reload steel cases. Wolf ammunition wolf performance 9mm luger ammo 115 grain fmj steel case berdan primed. Converting berdan primer to boxer in the 223 rem brass anyone. Reloading steel cases boxer primed page 2 reloading. Basically, the difference is how the primer is held into the cartridge. I know the berdan primed cases cannot but the above posts obviously are about non berdan cases. Tulammo tulammo 357 magnum ammo 158 grain full metal jacket steel case. The projectile features a bimetal jacket contains steel and copper and a lead core resulting in excellent ballistics characteristics. The reason that berdanprimed ammo cannot be reloaded is due to the way the case is designed.
The cases are also berdan primed and cannot be used for reloading, same garbage as tulammo. Since its usually a big hassle to decap the berdan primed cases, the overwhelming majority of steel cased ammo is berdan primed, and also a lot of other. Experienced no cracks, splits or anything, they loaded and shot just like brass cases. Wet tumbled clean in our stainless steel media thoroughly dried to prevent waterspots and ringers light wax coating applied to prevent tarnish sorted to remove berdan primed cases this brass has normal wear from being fired from an ak style firearm. I tried this on my a yugo 8mm mauser brass and i broke the tip on my third case. Usual case failure in steel is over fulllength sizing, with maximum loads. Mild loads, not low loads, not high loads, mild loads, 45 cal. All tulaammo rifle cartridges are steel cased, zinc jacketed, noncorrosive berdan primed, with a phosphate polymer coating and a lead core.
As i stated i am new to reloading and thought once it was fired, i could just remove the berdan primer and retrofit with boxer primer and be good to go. I only ordered berdan primers off gunbroker, should. Not to mention the steady supply i see on the ground at the local range. Tula ammo 9mm 115 grain fmj bimetal steel case berdan.
Reloading steel or brass surplus is a great way to save money. There is really only one reason most reloaders would even consider reloading berdan primed cases anymore, and that is the unavailability or expense of boxer primed cases for a particular chambering. Tulammo ammunition represents the steel case ammunition here in the us market. The subject was reloading berdan primed shotgun hulls, and the basic concept was to drill out the primer pocket from the inside of the hull using a 1564 drill, then chamfer the outside of the pocket using a 58 drill to give the 209 shotshell primer flange a place to go.
Of course if it is berdan primed youre not going to be able to decap it like boxer primed. Reloading berdan primers northwest firearms oregon. There is really only one reason most reloaders would even consider reloading berdanprimed cases anymore, and that is the unavailability or expense of boxerprimed cases for a particular chambering. A great target and practice ammunition, whether the marksmen is a novice or a. Berdan primers are difficult, timeconsuming and require special tools to be able to reload. The surplus 8x57mm mauser ammunition comes in two sealed cans of 340 and has 5round stripper clips. There are ways of roing it without altering the existing primer pocket. See more ideas about reloading ammo, reloading bench and reloading room. Reloading steel and brass military surplus cases with lead. A look down into a berdanprimed 9mm parabellum case. Im going to post this in several posts to get the pictures in the right place. Although the exact saving will depend on the caliber you chose to reload.
I will be generating some k31 swiss cases that are berdan primed and it seems a shame to throw away match quality cases just because of the berdan primers. Tul9mm 115 grain fmj bi metal steel case berdan primed 50 out of stock. Reloading steel cases how to reload steel case ammo. For efficient removal of berdan primers, nothing beats the rcbs military berdan decapping tool. The polymer coat does not leave a residue in the chamber and receiver the way the old shellack coated cases diddo. Whats the difference between berdan and boxer primers in ammo. When using berdanprimers the cup that the primer sits in is built into the case. In the past pmc and magtech have both sold berdan primers for reloading steel cases. Zero reload 38 special 148 grain wadcutter double end 50. Wet molded leather iphone holster with jimmy diresta duration. Primed rifle brass and nickel cases american reloading. This is what makes the berdan much harder to reload. Jan 19, 2016 i did 30dropped my normal weight 1grfunctioned perfect in ar. An absolute must for those who clean cases before reloading.
Reloading steel cases and berdan at that gun and game. I was reading an article in a new reloading magazine and i ran across an article on converting berdan primed cases to boxer primed. When the recent craziness ensued and ammo shelves went bare in many places i did up a video demonstrating the concept of reloading steel berdan cases with boxer primers. Tools to reload berdan primed brass gone outdoors your. Cheapest and best way to clean your brass, hands down. See, the steel used in the cases is purposely not as hard as other steels in other applications. Nearly all steel cases are berdan primed, so depriming is tricky and so is finding new primers. Reloading berdan brass gun and game the friendliest gun. Using our system requires one additional step the first time you reload. This is the first complete system for turning a berdan primed case into a boxer primed case. One of the great things about 9mm ammo is its relatively cheap and available at places like walmart. Demonstrating the reloading of berdan steel cases with regular primers, no special tools, and no case modifications. Iirc tula has made both berdan and boxer primed stuff so make sure its the latter if you want to try reloading.
Only a few of them were the lacquer coated cases, and they loaded the same. The projectile features a bimetal bullet jacket with lead. This cartridge complies with cip requirements and the casing features a polymercoated steel casing with a noncorrosive berdan primer. Hi sevelon, wolf mc 223 ammo is made by bernau russian whereas the wolf performances 223 ammo is made by tulammo in russia. Anyway, there was a bloke on youtube how was converting 7.
The other issue is that berdan primers come in an assortment of sizes. I had 2 of the silver barnaul cases and they were berdan primed. I say your time would be be better spent searching gun forums for non reloading folks willing to send you their 1x fired cases. Being the cheapi mean ultra resourceful character i am, is it possible to reload berdan primed cases. A while back i bought some 8mm berdan primed ammo and was wondering if the brass is even worth saving. Some of that steel case could very well be berdan primed and even if it wasnt, would not reload it.
Tough, almost unbreakable decapper easily removes crimped in primers. I buy a few boxes periodically for plinking and to top up my brass supply. Primed brass and nickel cases 2 american reloading. Steel cases are almost always good for at least one reloading. Wolf polyformance 45 acp auto ammo 230 grain fmj steel case. I now have a fair number of martyns ones so less pressing. This has had the result of making berdan primers expensive and hard to find in the usa. Thus, all calibers can be re primed with the purchase of a single system. Jun 22, 2016 this video about reloading aluminum cases was filmed on june 22, 2016. This is the new system you have heard about to convert the berdan primed cartridge to accept a boxer primer. Surplus ammo 8x57mm mauser 8mm mauser 150 grain full. Ranges make money back by recycling brass rounds andor reloading them to sell to customers. There is even a video on the internet of a guy reloading steel case berdan primed wolf ammo 7. Reloading steel cases boxer primed read 6747 times sqlbullet.
Steelcased ammo isnt worth as much as brass, and if berdanprimed, typically wont be reloaded. Berdan primed brass requires special decapping and reloading equiment. This is a discussion on reloading berdan primed cases within the ammunition forums, part of the m14 m1a forum category. Portable reloading bench plans portable reloading bench plans, what s new slopes for ios. I have a berdan decap tool and a homemade hydraulic tool. However, if you are interested in reloading, it makes a big difference. Its unclear as to why the use of these primers is inverted, however, we do know what distinguishes each type as its own. Here is the page for chrome steel balls quite cheap too. When i started reloading i quickly accumulated a few thousand cases this way without even trying. I deprime the berdan primers and replace them with standard large rifle primers. Steel cases have different expansion and contraction characteristics from brass or aluminum.
The military crimps are much stronger than you can imagine. I see wolf in lacquered steel cases, silvercolored cases zincwashed and goldcolored cases called wolf gold, which is brasswashed steel cases that a magnet picks up, same as zinc and dark cases. Im on the look out for more brass, but not so desperate as to chance my safety or damage to my gun by using aluminum or steel cases by trying to reload them. Secondly, i was just curious since the cases were boxer primed and sized easily. If it sizes well enough to hold a bullet in place without setback, id use it.
They used to be berdan primed, just for the reason rcmodel noted, but i thought someone here posted that they are boxer primed now. But,why do it in nonemergency times,really a waste of time. I know nothing about reloading so any help is appreciated. This tool works amazing well for modern berdan primed cases but do not use it on military berdan primed cases. Budget minded shooters and hunters that do not tend to reload their ammunition choose tulammo ammunition as their go to ammo because of the savings and attractive pricing compared to other ammo brands.
If you want to recycle youll have to shoot several tons to recycle the steel. And half a 55gal drum of steel cases,lot of guys run them in my sons classes. This means standard depriming tools wont work, and the widely available boxer primers wont work. When i run out of berdan primers i will try this process. Works on pistol brass, rifle brass and military crimped primers. Steel cases will last 5 or more normal reloads, and then anneal. Removing a used berdan primer from the case can be accomplished with a special tool that hooks on the outside of the case and pries out the used primer. Wolf mc 223 remington ammo 55 grain jsp steel case bulk. For a less expensive, but very effective, option, considerhydraulicallypushing out the primer. Used for sporting and training, this load shoots well in various climates and weather conditions. This is steel cartridge cases, steel core bullets and they have been banned from all indoor ranges i have been to as the round fouls up the range backstop. Im not a big fan of shooting steel from any of my guns but thats just me.
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